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karen mcdougle alleged a ten month affair with him. and what you get from david pecker's testimony in the middle of this karen mcdougle story here is the extent to which pecker was intimately involved with not only trump, but also michael cohen. saying and testifying today that he would have multiple conversations with him a week. sometimes when things were intense like around the mcdougle story, daily. i want to let everybody look at a part of the exchange that our team inside was able to transcribe where david pecker talked about encrypted messages sent back and forth between him and michael cohn which would suggest that perhaps not all the evidence that could be out there will ever make its way into the courtroom because it was encrypted. david pecker says that michael cohn said we should not speak over land line. we should use signal. quote, i didn't know what it was. david pecker continued it was an encrypted app by michael cohn. there's no way to trace or paper trail and the conversation is destroyed after the call to which pecke
karen mcdougle alleged a ten month affair with him. and what you get from david pecker's testimony in the middle of this karen mcdougle story here is the extent to which pecker was intimately involved with not only trump, but also michael cohen. saying and testifying today that he would have multiple conversations with him a week. sometimes when things were intense like around the mcdougle story, daily. i want to let everybody look at a part of the exchange that our team inside was able to...
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to karen mcdougle, but we are not that at that point in time. there's a lot of the back and forth -- >> vaughn, i'm going interrupt you because donald trump has come out of court. >> and i don't even know, a gag order. which to me is totally unconstitutional. i'm not allowed to talk to people. so they can talk about me, say whatever they want. they can lie, but i'm not allowed to say anything. i just have to sit back and look at why the conflicted judge has ordered me to have a gag order. i think anybody's ever seen anything like this. i'd love to talk to you people. say everything that's on my mind, but i'm restricted because of a gag order and i'm not sure that anybody's ever seen anything like this before. and even somebody writes an article, if i read every one of these in complete, i'll look at headlines and the case is a sham. but i can't read the whole thing. i'd be reading, this is like reading a novel. so i put -- and then some of these names, somewhere deep in the article and i'm in violation of a gag order. i think it's a disgrace. it
to karen mcdougle, but we are not that at that point in time. there's a lot of the back and forth -- >> vaughn, i'm going interrupt you because donald trump has come out of court. >> and i don't even know, a gag order. which to me is totally unconstitutional. i'm not allowed to talk to people. so they can talk about me, say whatever they want. they can lie, but i'm not allowed to say anything. i just have to sit back and look at why the conflicted judge has ordered me to have a gag...
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we were talking about the likes of karen mcdougle and stormy daniels here. these are not political figures. we've got to continue to come back to that. that in the middle of all this is a republican nominee who you just saw walk into the courtroom followed by senior adviser, jason miller, as well as club for growth president, david mcintosh. you have ken paxton, ag out of texas. eric trump, his own son. so really for the first time in stark contrast to the first two weeks, you've seen donald trump coming with a cast of not only political, but also a family member and other political allies here to have his back inside of that courtroom at a time when the testimony is only going to increase the pressure on him and his legal defense team is only going to rise as the testimony mounts. >> we're waiting for 2:15 to hit. it is 2:15. testimony is going to resume. i don't know. this is something that's been talked a lot about, vaughn. that unlike many defendants, donald trump's support system has been really his lawyers, right? to the point where last week, it was u
we were talking about the likes of karen mcdougle and stormy daniels here. these are not political figures. we've got to continue to come back to that. that in the middle of all this is a republican nominee who you just saw walk into the courtroom followed by senior adviser, jason miller, as well as club for growth president, david mcintosh. you have ken paxton, ag out of texas. eric trump, his own son. so really for the first time in stark contrast to the first two weeks, you've seen donald...
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then starting to tell the beginnings of the karen mcdougle story, which is where i expect they'll pick back up on thursday morning. >> and remember, pecker has an immunity deal. we're going to talk to you in a few minutes about the gag order hearing which got pretty contention this morning. joining us now, former assistant district attorney from manhattan, rebecca. and former assistant district attorney for the manhattan d.a.'s office. it's really good to have you. so pecker. having pecker on the stand today, how important was it for him to lay out the beginnings of the catch and kill, the prosecutors will call it, a scheme. >> very important as lisa said. he's a very important witness. he's the center of it. that trump tower meeting, that was him and cohen and that was the boss. president trump. former president trump. and he had a lot of good nugget ts in his testimony including describing donald trump as very detailed and almost micro managing. this is not someone that's just hands off. >> why does the prosecution need to understand donald trump is very detailed? >> first of all, it
then starting to tell the beginnings of the karen mcdougle story, which is where i expect they'll pick back up on thursday morning. >> and remember, pecker has an immunity deal. we're going to talk to you in a few minutes about the gag order hearing which got pretty contention this morning. joining us now, former assistant district attorney from manhattan, rebecca. and former assistant district attorney for the manhattan d.a.'s office. it's really good to have you. so pecker. having...
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. >> some who may take the stand, stormy daniels, karen mcdougle, david . talk about these potential witnesses for the prosecution and who do you think donald trump is most concerned about. >> michael cohen is the key witness and nose were all the bottles -- bodies are buried and he continues to attack and even despite any gag order in place so they are going to go after michael cohen that he is a convicted liar, convicted felon even though he lied to protect donald trump and the felonies he was convicted of, some involve the conduct that donald trump is being put on trial for so he will be the most devastating witness but what i most interesting is hope hicks, she has no ax to grind a net she will be there to corroborate michael cohen and that will be must-see tv and if only there were cameras in the courtroom. >> hope hicks, does it matter if she is still within the trump orbit if she is still friendly with donald trump and/or the family? >> yes, that makes for a better witness because it shows she has no bias against the former president so when she take
. >> some who may take the stand, stormy daniels, karen mcdougle, david . talk about these potential witnesses for the prosecution and who do you think donald trump is most concerned about. >> michael cohen is the key witness and nose were all the bottles -- bodies are buried and he continues to attack and even despite any gag order in place so they are going to go after michael cohen that he is a convicted liar, convicted felon even though he lied to protect donald trump and the...
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but karen mcdougle, arguably, you don't need much of her testimony at all. she's certainly an interesting witness but in terms of proving things, there's not a lot more you get out of here that will be introduced by davidson or by gary fero. you can make the argument they barely need karen mcdougle but need a character like stormy daniels. her transaction is at the center of this case. but i say that if you have enough gary fero testimony, enough testimony by other people to know about the transaction. >> but the jury's going to want to see her. >> you've got to call stormy daniels and mcdougle. the fact that a witness is interesting doesn't -- >> thank you so much. >> ahead in our next hour, we'll speak to a former executive vice president of the trump organization. but first, we'll turn to another major story we're following today. columbia university protestors storming and occupying a building on campus. we'll head there live after this. you're watching chris jansing reports only on msnbc. g chris j reports only on msnbc. today, at america's beverage com
but karen mcdougle, arguably, you don't need much of her testimony at all. she's certainly an interesting witness but in terms of proving things, there's not a lot more you get out of here that will be introduced by davidson or by gary fero. you can make the argument they barely need karen mcdougle but need a character like stormy daniels. her transaction is at the center of this case. but i say that if you have enough gary fero testimony, enough testimony by other people to know about the...
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karen mcdougle, keith davidson. the entire editorial infrastructure of ami and the national enquirer. dave pecker. dylan howard. jeffrey mcconnie, the comptroller for the trump organization. these people have new perspective on a very tawdry story and like if there's one thing this country likes is a great story. >> can i two more? madeleine westerhouse and hope hicks. madeleine sat outside the oval office. she saw everybody who went in, out, she could look through a little peephole in the oval office and see who was in there. she knows a lot. hope hicks was on every call he was on. we will certainly learn more about how they discussed this strategically and that seems to be part of the story. >> the point of how important this was for the trump campaign. this issue was something that trump was trying to use against hillary clinton's candidacy because of her husband and so we'll recall that at the debates, it was donald trump who decided i'm going to invite women who have made accusations against bill clinton. that
karen mcdougle, keith davidson. the entire editorial infrastructure of ami and the national enquirer. dave pecker. dylan howard. jeffrey mcconnie, the comptroller for the trump organization. these people have new perspective on a very tawdry story and like if there's one thing this country likes is a great story. >> can i two more? madeleine westerhouse and hope hicks. madeleine sat outside the oval office. she saw everybody who went in, out, she could look through a little peephole in...
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pecker is alleged to trust worthy bought former play mate karen mcdougle story and the intent never to publish and practice called catch and kill. lawyer with the former president and whether or not trump faced him with suppressing story and he may have violated federal election law and suppressing ms. pecker said i've been truthful to the best of my recollection. trump's long time executive assistant took the stand yesterday, that's her right there. said her boss of about 30 years was fair and respectful. graph said she haggly remembers seeing stormy daniels in trump tower before the 2016 election and daniels claims she had an affair with donald trump. meanwhile the former president and current president taking shots on the campaign trail and president biden made use yesterday announcing he's willing to debate his opponent here and he is with howard stern. >> i don't know if you're going to debate your opponent. >> i am somewhere, i don't know when. i'm happy to debate him. >> former president trump said bring it on. >> inviting biden to debate. he can do it any time he wants, includi
pecker is alleged to trust worthy bought former play mate karen mcdougle story and the intent never to publish and practice called catch and kill. lawyer with the former president and whether or not trump faced him with suppressing story and he may have violated federal election law and suppressing ms. pecker said i've been truthful to the best of my recollection. trump's long time executive assistant took the stand yesterday, that's her right there. said her boss of about 30 years was fair and...
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karen mcdougle, stormy daniels, the alleged one year affair when his third wife had delivered his fifth child, he pays off a fill starm. those are salacious details. this is a man who is supposed to be the candidate of evangelicals. >> right. >> so i think this is not so helpful. >> someone will have to have a squaring off with who they are with their beliefs. thank you molly. >>> still ahead on velshi, we will watch capitol hill where house members are working to pass a long stalled aid package and others are working to oust the speaker. >>> and the story of a red state governor who figures prominently on trump's vp short list got herself banned on one fifth of the land in her own state. >>> and then maulik choley talks to us about the book he wrote on kids navigating multicultural layers. but now it is not just his book being banned. the shocking story of censorship ahead. nned the shocking story of censorship ahead. wedding?? why can't they use my backyard!! with empower, we get all of our financial questions answered. so we don't have to worry. empower. what's next. try killing bugs
karen mcdougle, stormy daniels, the alleged one year affair when his third wife had delivered his fifth child, he pays off a fill starm. those are salacious details. this is a man who is supposed to be the candidate of evangelicals. >> right. >> so i think this is not so helpful. >> someone will have to have a squaring off with who they are with their beliefs. thank you molly. >>> still ahead on velshi, we will watch capitol hill where house members are working to...
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from that point on, in 2016, it led to not only the purchasing by ami of karen mcdougle's story, but also michael cohen being informed by the enquirer that stormy daniels in october of 2016, had her own story to share and at that point, it was michael cohen who paid her $130,000 to keep her story silent. david pecker in realtime, we are being told from inside of the courtroom, is now taking the stand and he is being sworn in to testify for what could be for a number of days, andrea. >> and chuck, this opening statement, it was supposed to be a statement with just facts, no argument. that's why it's called the opening statement. it's closing arguments. but chuck, at this point, how do you explain all the objections we saw? it sounded to me some of those statements were, the prosecution's case is a lie. >> well, if the defense lawyer is saying that the government's case is a lie, that would be argument and it would be impermissible. it's hard to know why all these objections were made. it's possible that the defense team was beginning to cross a line that judge merchan had laid down in
from that point on, in 2016, it led to not only the purchasing by ami of karen mcdougle's story, but also michael cohen being informed by the enquirer that stormy daniels in october of 2016, had her own story to share and at that point, it was michael cohen who paid her $130,000 to keep her story silent. david pecker in realtime, we are being told from inside of the courtroom, is now taking the stand and he is being sworn in to testify for what could be for a number of days, andrea. >>...
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mcdougle. but what she knew afterwards during her term of service in the white house was off limits during that testimony. she may have learned something then, or, possibly, she might have a different perspective on those events today and in future days in this court than she did before the house judiciary committee. mika, i'm looking to see those two women, hope and madeline, as the witnesses that might really bear some unrest for donald trump. >> so interesting. jonathan lemire, just from looking at this at the start, at the onset, we've been hearing donald trump already making himself the victim. he will continue to do that throughout this trial. i'm gagged. he keeps saying, "i've been gagged, i'm gagged," which is an interesting thought, and then forced to be here and this is election interference because i'm running for president. of course, all the delays have brought this closer to election day. i'm also thinking that he'll be up against a daily diet of narratives from karen mcdougal, fr
mcdougle. but what she knew afterwards during her term of service in the white house was off limits during that testimony. she may have learned something then, or, possibly, she might have a different perspective on those events today and in future days in this court than she did before the house judiciary committee. mika, i'm looking to see those two women, hope and madeline, as the witnesses that might really bear some unrest for donald trump. >> so interesting. jonathan lemire, just...
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karen mcdougle, also the door man from trump tower. steinglass, one of the attorneys for the state, said they won't get into the salacious details of the relationship. yes, melania was pregnant with trump's child at the time, but they will not at this point get into these details unless it comes up in cross. michael cohen, this is a big one, right. we know michael cohen is seen as the star witness and the defense has already started to begin to discredit him. they talked about the admission of wanting to admit some of the tweets that were put out by donald trump of michael cohen when his apartment was raided. it seems as though merchan is not ready to make a ruling on that because he says he has laid out a roadmap for this trial and will make a ruling on it when that comes to fruition. also, they talked specifically about the intimidation that some of these tweets show of donald trump. and what i mean by that is as if the former president was trying to intimidate witnesses. that is why steinglass wants to admit this evidence in trial.
karen mcdougle, also the door man from trump tower. steinglass, one of the attorneys for the state, said they won't get into the salacious details of the relationship. yes, melania was pregnant with trump's child at the time, but they will not at this point get into these details unless it comes up in cross. michael cohen, this is a big one, right. we know michael cohen is seen as the star witness and the defense has already started to begin to discredit him. they talked about the admission of...
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the call took place soon after former playboy model karen mcdougal gave an interview to cnn. pecker told the two ladies he planned to extend an agreement with mcdougle that would keep her from speaking more widely about her alleged affair with the former president. pecker said sanders and hicks, quote, thought it was a good idea. joining us now, former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. >> it is interesting. the argument that the defense was making really fell flat when they suggested that pecker was doing this for profit, all of this for profit. in fact, if he had run the mcdougle/trump story, it probably would have broken records. but he decided to sit on it because, as he said throughout his testimony, he wanted to help donald trump, his friend, get elected president. >> that's true. joe, it was underscored by the fact that in much of his testimony, david pecker's bottom line was clear as the primary motivating factor for him. but as joshua steinglass, representative for the d.a., established on redirect, yes, it was to his benefit to run positive stories
the call took place soon after former playboy model karen mcdougal gave an interview to cnn. pecker told the two ladies he planned to extend an agreement with mcdougle that would keep her from speaking more widely about her alleged affair with the former president. pecker said sanders and hicks, quote, thought it was a good idea. joining us now, former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. >> it is interesting. the argument that the defense was making really fell flat when...